Wed, Oct. 7, 9pm EDT - 'Pet Sounds' by The Beach Boys

"No one is musically educated until they have heard The Beach Boys' Pet Sounds" - Paul McCartney

"If records had a director within a band, I sort of directed Pepper. And my influence was basically the Pet Sounds album." - Paul McCartney

Pretty heady stuff (putting aside the debatable claim from McCartney that he 'directed' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band).  Regardless, I'm not sure anything I write can be more inspiring than those quotes from Paul.  Briefly though, it must be said that there were clearly influences back and forth between The Beach Boys and The Beatles.  Rubber Soul (inasmuch as it was more of a concept album and not just filler songs amongst singles) influenced Pet Sounds which influenced Sgt Pepper.  McCartney also stated that the intro to "Here, There and Everywhere", from Revolver, was influenced by The Beach Boys.  I think it's safe to say that the UK / California connection helped enrich each group's recording output.  Would Sgt Pepper and Pet Sounds have been as brilliant without the influence of the other group?  They may have still been great, but perhaps in different ways. Or maybe the creators wouldn't have strived as hard or would not have realized all the possibilities without the influence of the other.  As we listen to Pet Sounds we can certainly debate these ideas. But of course "Album Night" doesn't need to be a debate but can simply be a time to sit back and admire a great work of art!

So join me on Wednesday, Oct. 7 at 9pm EDT for "Album Night" and a listen to the 1966 classic, Pet Sounds.

I'll leave you with this last quote which may help you decide how to enjoy this album during "Album Night" (or maybe just for subsequent spins):

"When you listen to Pet Sounds, use ear phones in the dark and you can hear everything" - Brian Wilson

60 comments

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Welcome to "Album Night"! Before we start, here's my usual reminder for the event: ***Please make sure to periodically refresh your browser during the event so you can see all the comments as they are posted. Unfortunately, the site will not automatically update on its own.***

    Welcome to "Album Night"! Before we start, here's my usual reminder for the event:
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  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    And with that out of the way, here are some interesting videos about the album. There's also an article with McCartney speaking about it and a link to lyrics for the album, if you'd like to follow along: Videos: Behind The Sounds: God Only Knows Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVUBpzlELOg Behind The Sounds: I Know There's An Answer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3f6ZKQ_ffo The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations - Rare Studio Recording Film Footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8rd53WuojE The Pet Sounds/Sgt. Pepper Connection-Part 1 (I have not watched this one yet but it looks interesting) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz4rHCRNy_U PET SOUNDS-ART THAT SHOOK THE WORLD (I have not watched this one yet but it too looks interesting) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX-kFyt73Uw Article: McCartney interview in 1990 about Pet Sounds: http://albumlinernotes.com/Paul_McCartney_Comments.html Lyrics http://genius.com/albums/The-beach-boys/Pet-sounds

    And with that out of the way, here are some interesting videos about the album. There's also an article with McCartney speaking about it and a link to lyrics for the album, if you'd like to follow along:

    Videos:
    Behind The Sounds: God Only Knows Part 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVUBpzlELOg

    Behind The Sounds: I Know There's An Answer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3f6ZKQ_ffo

    The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations - Rare Studio Recording Film Footage
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8rd53WuojE

    The Pet Sounds/Sgt. Pepper Connection-Part 1 (I have not watched this one yet but it looks interesting)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz4rHCRNy_U

    PET SOUNDS-ART THAT SHOOK THE WORLD (I have not watched this one yet but it too looks interesting)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX-kFyt73Uw

    Article:
    McCartney interview in 1990 about Pet Sounds:
    http://albumlinernotes.com/Paul_McCartney_Comments.html

    Lyrics
    http://genius.com/albums/The-beach-boys/Pet-sounds

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Kicking off in 2 minutes. Anyone else out there? I'll be spinning vinyl

    Kicking off in 2 minutes. Anyone else out there?

    I'll be spinning vinyl

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    Pet Sounds is truly one of the great classic albums ever. I remember listening to it constantly in my youth.

    Pet Sounds is truly one of the great classic albums ever. I remember listening to it constantly in my youth.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Welcome aboard John. You listening to the vinyl also?

    Welcome aboard John. You listening to the vinyl also?

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Btw, I'm going to listen on headphones as B. WIlson suggests

    Btw, I'm going to listen on headphones as B. WIlson suggests

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    "Album Night" officially starts now! Start track 1 (hit play or put the needle down on side A) of 'Pet Sounds' by The Beach Boys. Share your thoughts right here as you listen!

    "Album Night" officially starts now! Start track 1 (hit play or put the needle down on side A) of 'Pet Sounds' by The Beach Boys. Share your thoughts right here as you listen!

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    I wore out my vinyl copy a long time ago :)

    I wore out my vinyl copy a long time ago smile

  • Louis

    Louis Pville

    Love this album. Listening on YOu Tube. Have the vinyl only (actually my wife's)

    Love this album. Listening on YOu Tube. Have the vinyl only (actually my wife's)

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    Wouldn't It Be Nice was one of the two hit singles from the album.

    Wouldn't It Be Nice was one of the two hit singles from the album.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Welcome Louis!

    Welcome Louis!

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    Legend has it that Pet Sounds was inspired by the Beatles' Rubber Soul and it then inspired the Beatles to top it with Sgt. Pepper.

    Legend has it that Pet Sounds was inspired by the Beatles' Rubber Soul and it then inspired the Beatles to top it with Sgt. Pepper.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    I watched a few videos of the links I posted above and thought they were really interesting. You really start to understand how much instrumentation is really on the album. Many parts being doubled by different instruments and so forth. And to see/hear Brian orchestrating and directing everyone was interesting too

    I watched a few videos of the links I posted above and thought they were really interesting. You really start to understand how much instrumentation is really on the album. Many parts being doubled by different instruments and so forth. And to see/hear Brian orchestrating and directing everyone was interesting too

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    People may not remember how popular the Beach Boys were in the 60's - almost as big as the Beatles and Stones.

    People may not remember how popular the Beach Boys were in the 60's - almost as big as the Beatles and Stones.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Yes, John T, I've read/heard a lot of that. Some of the videos have Brian stating that Rubber Soul was the inspiration and that he wanted to top it. Healthy competition. Well, maybe not so healthy for Brian once Sgt Pepper came out...

    Yes, John T, I've read/heard a lot of that. Some of the videos have Brian stating that Rubber Soul was the inspiration and that he wanted to top it. Healthy competition. Well, maybe not so healthy for Brian once Sgt Pepper came out...

  • Louis

    Louis Pville

    Yes, especially interesting through headsets. Never listened this closely.

    Yes, especially interesting through headsets. Never listened this closely.

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    Third track - That's Not Me - and the harmonies are impeccable. One great song after the other. The songs are very personal and totally Brian's.

    Third track - That's Not Me - and the harmonies are impeccable. One great song after the other. The songs are very personal and totally Brian's.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Interesting John. You never really hear The Beach Boys mentioned in the same conversation as The Beatles and The Stones

    Interesting John. You never really hear The Beach Boys mentioned in the same conversation as The Beatles and The Stones

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    The songs are perfect but short by today's standards. It is hard typing and not misssing some important moment. Music to savor.

    The songs are perfect but short by today's standards. It is hard typing and not misssing some important moment. Music to savor.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    I was noticing the harmonies as well. Really tremendous, though I read that Brian was a perfectionist and the group had to do many, many takes to get it right according to Brian. The perfectionism paid off though

    I was noticing the harmonies as well. Really tremendous, though I read that Brian was a perfectionist and the group had to do many, many takes to get it right according to Brian. The perfectionism paid off though

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    "Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)" is one of the my favorites on the album

    "Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)" is one of the my favorites on the album

  • Louis

    Louis Pville

    Interesting point John T. Anyone born in the last 20-30 years might not get the impression of the Beach Boys being so popular. They certainly aren't talked about as much today as the Beatles. But back then, they were one of the top groups. I always loved them especially for the harmony. But the music on this album is very interesting.

    Interesting point John T. Anyone born in the last 20-30 years might not get the impression of the Beach Boys being so popular. They certainly aren't talked about as much today as the Beatles. But back then, they were one of the top groups. I always loved them especially for the harmony. But the music on this album is very interesting.

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    John and Louis - you are both right about the complex production and orcahestration. Sometimes you miss that by focusing on the harmonies and lyrics. I should have listened on headphones as well. It must make quite a difference.

    John and Louis - you are both right about the complex production and orcahestration. Sometimes you miss that by focusing on the harmonies and lyrics. I should have listened on headphones as well. It must make quite a difference.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    I was thinking about the shortness of the songs too. Not many are over 3 minutes and even those are barely over. Feel free to just sit back and listen though.

    I was thinking about the shortness of the songs too. Not many are over 3 minutes and even those are barely over. Feel free to just sit back and listen though.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    The harmonies still stand out on the headphones, but you really get a deeper appreciation of the instrumentation during the many instrumental breaks that Brian worked in

    The harmonies still stand out on the headphones, but you really get a deeper appreciation of the instrumentation during the many instrumental breaks that Brian worked in

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    The album was so totally dominated by Brian's vision that the other Beach Boys began to feel left out. The album marked the beginning of the fissure within the group which intensified with Smile.

    The album was so totally dominated by Brian's vision that the other Beach Boys began to feel left out. The album marked the beginning of the fissure within the group which intensified with Smile.

  • Louis

    Louis Pville

    Last winter we had tickets to see the beach boys in concert at the tarrytown music hall. Unfortunately, there was an ice storm that night and we couldn't even get out of the driveway. Surprisingly the show went on and we missed it. too bad.

    Last winter we had tickets to see the beach boys in concert at the tarrytown music hall. Unfortunately, there was an ice storm that night and we couldn't even get out of the driveway. Surprisingly the show went on and we missed it. too bad.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    "Let's Go Away for Awhile", track 6, starting now.

    "Let's Go Away for Awhile", track 6, starting now.

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    Nice instrumental break -Let's Go Away for Awhile. Almost forgot about this track.

    Nice instrumental break -Let's Go Away for Awhile. Almost forgot about this track.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Nice instrumental break here

    Nice instrumental break here

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Quote from Tony Asher on co-writing the songs with Brian on Pet Sounds: "The general tenor of the lyrics was often [Brian's], however the actual choice of words was usually mine. I was really just his interpreter." Is Asher even officially credited with the co-writing?

    Quote from Tony Asher on co-writing the songs with Brian on Pet Sounds: "The general tenor of the lyrics was often [Brian's], however the actual choice of words was usually mine. I was really just his interpreter."
    Is Asher even officially credited with the co-writing?

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    Sloop John B was the other big hit from the album. I think though that after all these years later God Only Knows remains the most popular and best known song. One of their masterpieces.

    Sloop John B was the other big hit from the album.

    I think though that after all these years later God Only Knows remains the most popular and best known song. One of their masterpieces.

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    Re: Tony Asher - never heard that one. There is always someone trying to take credit for stuff.

    Re: Tony Asher - never heard that one. There is always someone trying to take credit for stuff.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    "God Only Knows" is definitely one of the highlights, though "Caroline No" is also one of my favorites on the album.

    "God Only Knows" is definitely one of the highlights, though "Caroline No" is also one of my favorites on the album.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    I've read/heard the Asher thing in numerous places, so I think it's legit, though to what extent I cannot say

    I've read/heard the Asher thing in numerous places, so I think it's legit, though to what extent I cannot say

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    I Know There's an Answer and I Just Wasn't Made For These Times are two of my Brian's most personal statements.

    I Know There's an Answer and I Just Wasn't Made For These Times are two of my Brian's most personal statements.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Btw, this was an interesting video: Behind The Sounds: God Only Knows Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVUBpzlELOg

    Btw, this was an interesting video:
    Behind The Sounds: God Only Knows Part 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVUBpzlELOg

  • Louis T

    Louis T Pville

    Wouldn't it be Nice, God only knows, sloop john b, are all tops for me. Not sure how I would rank them . They all elicit memories of a different time and place.

    Wouldn't it be Nice, God only knows, sloop john b, are all tops for me. Not sure how I would rank them . They all elicit memories of a different time and place.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Yeah, I heard that "I Know There's an Answer" is about LSD and was originally called "Hang on to Your Ego" because apparently he noticed many losing confidence after tripping on acid

    Yeah, I heard that "I Know There's an Answer" is about LSD and was originally called "Hang on to Your Ego" because apparently he noticed many losing confidence after tripping on acid

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    Thanks for the videos John. There is lots of excellent background info and history about this album most of which I was never aware of.

    Thanks for the videos John. There is lots of excellent background info and history about this album most of which I was never aware of.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Yeah, definitely no shortage of material on this one! Really interesting stuff though

    Yeah, definitely no shortage of material on this one! Really interesting stuff though

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    John I see Hang on to Your Ego is listed as an extra track on the CD reissues. Will have to give it a listen.

    John I see Hang on to Your Ego is listed as an extra track on the CD reissues. Will have to give it a listen.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    My only potential knock on this album (and it's not really a knock because I love the album too) is that some of the lyrics/themes/perspectives come across as a little childish. Granted I think Brian was only in his early twenties, but when you compare it vs. Beatles stuff it seems slightly immature

    My only potential knock on this album (and it's not really a knock because I love the album too) is that some of the lyrics/themes/perspectives come across as a little childish. Granted I think Brian was only in his early twenties, but when you compare it vs. Beatles stuff it seems slightly immature

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    @John T - I'll have to switch to digital and listen to the bonus track also, if I have that edition

    @John T - I'll have to switch to digital and listen to the bonus track also, if I have that edition

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    I think I bought the album in mono origianlly. I wonder if they reissued it in that format and how it sounds compared to stereo. Many albums back in those days were actually recorded in mono and artificially separated intot two channels.

    I think I bought the album in mono origianlly. I wonder if they reissued it in that format and how it sounds compared to stereo. Many albums back in those days were actually recorded in mono and artificially separated intot two channels.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    As a point of reference, "Pet Sounds", track 12, (another instrumental piece) starting now.

    As a point of reference, "Pet Sounds", track 12, (another instrumental piece) starting now.

  • Louis

    Louis Pville

    I think John Lennon and George Harrison's influence in particular added much of lyrical depth to the Beatles, which is starkly different from the simpler lyrics of the Beachboys.

    I think John Lennon and George Harrison's influence in particular added much of lyrical depth to the Beatles, which is starkly different from the simpler lyrics of the Beachboys.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    I'm listening to a stereo vinyl. I thought it was first edition but I could be wrong. Not sure if it was true stereo or artificially separated but it sounds legit

    I'm listening to a stereo vinyl. I thought it was first edition but I could be wrong. Not sure if it was true stereo or artificially separated but it sounds legit

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    John I think the Beach Boys always came across more innocent then the Beatles - mostly because they didn't have someone like John Lennon in the group.

    John I think the Beach Boys always came across more innocent then the Beatles - mostly because they didn't have someone like John Lennon in the group.

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    Totally agree with your comment Louis.

    Totally agree with your comment Louis.

  • Louis T

    Louis T Pville

    John T, totally agree.

    John T, totally agree.

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    @Good point Louis. I've never found McCartney's lyrics to be that profound. Well, not in comparison to Lennon and Harrison anyway

    @Good point Louis. I've never found McCartney's lyrics to be that profound. Well, not in comparison to Lennon and Harrison anyway

  • John T

    John T Eastchester

    Strange ending. Less than 40 minutes - wow that was short but every song memorable. Another good choice John. Thumbs all the way!!

    Strange ending.

    Less than 40 minutes - wow that was short but every song memorable.

    Another good choice John. Thumbs all the way!!

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Yeah, a classic for sure. But yes, a bit of a strange ending. I like it though. I'm going to try to listen to Hang on to your Ego now, if I have it

    Yeah, a classic for sure. But yes, a bit of a strange ending. I like it though. I'm going to try to listen to Hang on to your Ego now, if I have it

  • Louis T

    Louis T Pville

    Enjoyed the album night. Now I have to watch those videos J B sent us. Good night all!!

    Enjoyed the album night. Now I have to watch those videos J B sent us. Good night all!!

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Good night and thanks for joining "Album Night". Btw, switching to digital from vinyl is harsh. Can't listen at the same volume without hurting my ears

    Good night and thanks for joining "Album Night".

    Btw, switching to digital from vinyl is harsh. Can't listen at the same volume without hurting my ears

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    "Album Night" will return on Wed, November 4 with 'Red Apple Falls' by Smog. I hope to see you all then. Certainly not an album universally celebrated like "Pet Sounds" but definitely worth a listen in my opinion

    "Album Night" will return on Wed, November 4 with 'Red Apple Falls' by Smog.

    I hope to see you all then. Certainly not an album universally celebrated like "Pet Sounds" but definitely worth a listen in my opinion

  • John C

    John C

    I just became available a few minutes ago, too bad I missed this Pet Sounds album night. Just started playing some tracks now. Banrock, I'll also check out a couple of the interesting links you posted. Hope to see everyone at the 17th Victor's show

    I just became available a few minutes ago, too bad I missed this Pet Sounds album night. Just started playing some tracks now. Banrock, I'll also check out a couple of the interesting links you posted. Hope to see everyone at the 17th Victor's show

  • John C

    John C

    - John C

    - John C

  • John Banrock

    John Banrock

    Definitely John. I've found some of those videos, as well as the album itself, to be very inspirational for recording. I'd love to hear if any of it inspires you to try anything new in the studio

    Definitely John. I've found some of those videos, as well as the album itself, to be very inspirational for recording. I'd love to hear if any of it inspires you to try anything new in the studio

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